
Alicia's dad and step-mom have a hotel at Santa Cruz, and Smark and I are going to stay there for a night.
Pacific Blue Inn
It's a small bed and breakfast in downtown Santa Cruz. It looks really nice.
Our back and forth inspired me to add a new post to my blog providing more background on the effort to create an undergraduate minor and a graduate certificate program in Environment and Sustainability. (http://theconsensusbuildingapproach.blogspot.com)
We are trying to distinguish the Energy Minor and the Environment and Sustainability Minor. The less they overlap, the better (in terms of getting them both adopted by the faculty).
I agree completely with your point about the need to offer relevant classes in each student's major. That's why we have adopted the idea of sub-specialties. But, we can only offer sub-specialties in areas where departments agree to offer the same courses on a regular basis. We have not gotten any indication from Course VI that they are willing to offer a sub-specialty. We are working with Chemistry to develop a Green Chemistry sub-specialty.
I like your IAP suggestion a lot!
Well, I realize that the Environment and Sustainability effort isn't focused on energy. It just seems like the only aspect that anyone is working on in Course 6. The goal of power electronics (what Leeb and Perrault work on) is to convert energy efficiently so I think it's relevant by definition, but I also know that they're personally interested in sustainability.
I was thinking they could help adapt or create an undergrduate course on energy harvesting technologies. Are you saying that such a class would be more appropriate for the Energy Minor and it would be preferable for the Sustainability Minor not to overlap? Or perhaps such a class would not have enough focus on strategies for sustainability?
My idea for the sustainability minor was to offer some very technical classes that would equip students with skills relevant to making every industry sustainable instead of inadvertently equipping students with technical expertise that is most relevant to missile defense or ecryption for defense or robotics for defense. In that sense, I am not sure that any new course 6 classes could really be "about" sustainability since classes are generally not "about" any application.
However, I think that to get students engaged in sustainability in their careers it is really important to offer relevant classes in their own major. In my mind, the goal is so that people become engaged in sustainability as a part of their careers, and students often don't consider classes taken outside their major to be important to their careers. It may be nice to change that, but I think that would be a more fundamental problem. It's not really all the students' fault, though. Employers typically are only interested in what technical classes you took so there isn't really incentive to take classes outside your major. (So with this in mind, for classes that are offered outside the major, it's really important to make sure they're classified as HASS classes.) Besides the classes, students get a lot of technical expertise doing UROPs, but again, put a higher value on more technical UROPs, especially if they can be listed as an author on a paper or work in a regular basis with a professor, and then maybe they can get you into grad school...etc. Professors who teach classes, especially the core header classes get the most exposure and probably UROP students, so it could be a good idea to encourage faculty working on sustainability projects to teach more header classes. I have no idea how those decisions are made within the departments, though.
Joe Paradiso's lab hires a lot of UROPs that sometimes end up doing grad school with him. Rich Fletcher does, too. They're at the Media Lab, though, and aren't typically involved with undergraduate curriculum.
So I'd say it's really important to get more funding for professors who are interested in sustainability related projects, or perhaps just help them publicize what they do. I'm hoping that the Sustainability Minor as well as the Summit will influence the priorities of labs at MIT and perhaps get more sustainability related faculty hired as well.
Lastly, it's a good idea to offer less technical classes or seminars on sustainability over IAP. During that time, most other of their required courses are not offered and students feel they have time to "branch out."
Thanks for the post. Dave Staelin is the only person on your list who has been an active member of the MIT Faculty Environmental Network for Sustainability (FENS).
You seem to be conflating the Institute's Energy Initiative and the proposed
Environment and Sustainability effort suggested by the FENS. We see the Energy Initiative as a much narrower effort. You can work on Energy without being the least bit concerned about Sustainability (which often seems to be the case at MIT). Those of us interested in Environment and Sustainability who also work on energy tend to be interested in Renewables, Efficiency and strategies for minimizing greenhouse gas emissions and pollution associated with fossil fuel options. These have not been the top priorities of MITEI. They are not the primary focus of the new undergraduate Energy Minor. So, while certain aspects of energy policy and development will undoubtedly get folded into the new Environment and Sustainability Minor and Graduate Certificate, energy per se will not be ur primary focus.
Your point about what you see as an emphasis on developing countries is interesting. Those of us engaged in the battle against climate change know that anything less than
a global perspective is fruitless. Efforts to reduce CO2 emissions to manageable
levels over the next 35 years will have to be focused on the rapidly industrializing
nations of the G-77 as well as on big cities in OECD countries. What works in the North won't be particularly relevant in the South -- at least for the next several decades. So, we imagine a bifurcated approach to studying Environment and Sustainability at MIT. And, we imagine students moving from one context to the other during their careers. We want to prepare students to work successfully in both the developing and developed worlds. And, if we have a bias at this point, I think it ought to be on getting US-oriented students to pay attention to the problems facing and the differences associated with working in the mega-cities of the developing world. I hope we can do this by taking a persistently comparative approach to what
and how we teach at the Institute.
The survey that Sustainability@MIT did at the end of last semester indicates that a lot of MIT students are entirely unaware of the full scope of what is already offered at the Institute (and dramatically constrained by the requirements imposed by their home base department and degree program). Even if they have a glimmer of what's available, they don't see how they can possibly fit in what we are suggesting given everything they have to do. So, the obstacles to interdisciplinary and interdepartmental study at the Institute are severe. Do you have ideas about how we can get around them? Those of involved in real-life efforts to facilitate sustainable development both in the US and overseas know that it is crucial for the next generation of young professionals to be able to span disciplinary boundaries and to work at the intersection of theory and practice. We're struggling to figure out how to launch MIT students in this direction.
I'm a bit distressed that we didn't make the first core subject seem more important
to you. In the rest of the country, in the sustainability curricula that have already been
adopted, ecology is a centerpiece. MIT hasn't had a basic
ecology course available to undergraduates. Our approach is to embrace some
of the ethical issues concerning the responsibilities of humans for the stewardship
of the natural environment.
Many thanks for your comments on the sustainability minor. This is exactly
the kind of input we will use to shape the final version of the curriculum package
that goes to the full faculty for review.
I'm a bit distressed that we didn't make the first core subject seem more important
to you. In the rest of the country, in the sustainability curricula that have already been
adopted, ecology is a centerpiece. MIT hasn't had a basic
ecology course available to undergraduates. Our approach is to embrace some
of the ethical issues concerning the responsibilities of humans for the stewardship
of the natural environment.
We would love to get Course VI more involved. Who on the faculty in EECS
might we tap?
Of course, Let's continue the exchange in your blog. You can also cross reference
my blog (http://theconsensusbuildingapproach.blogspot.com) which deals
with sustainability issues as well.
I hope you'll look at the numerous undergraduate and graduate sub-specialities proposed by the various
MIT departments (or, in one case, by a set of departments) and offer your
feedback on the particular sets of subjects included. The sub-specialties are
as important to the undergraduate minor in Environment and Sustainability
as the new core subjects.
I wonder if you are right that most MIT graduates are going to work only in the
United States. My hunch is that in the future even US-born graduates will
spend at least part of their careers working in or for developing countries.
Certainly, if you look at the graduates of Course XI (Urban Studies and
Planning), you'll see that our alumni move back and forth from one part
of the world to another (and from the public sector to the private sector to
civil society) rather than stay in one position for a long time.
A lot of the skills that students learn ought to be applicable in both developing and developed
countries (particularly in mega-cities). My own interest, for example, in
wind energy, particularly the development of off-shore wind resources,
is an issue around the world. Knowing how to assess potential wind
development options, thinking through the roles that government can
play in supporting private investment in wind, understanding the best ways
of involving the public in wind development decisions, and being aware
of the best means of mitigating environmental impacts of various renewable energy
technologies are equally important in all geographical settings (even
if they are likely to produce very different results in different parts of
the world).
Sustainability@MIT did a survey last spring to get at the kinds of things
that students interested in the potential undergraduate minor and the
proposed Interdisciplinary Graduate Certificate in Environment and
Sustainability wanted to learn. I was surprised to see how narrowly
some students framed their interests.